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Welcome to Other People's Perspective. I'm your host, Freddy Cocek. My guest today is a gentleman by the name of Brandon Hudson. He is in the great state of Maryland, correct? Yes, sir. OK. And you are he operates a gym. What is it? Mixed martial arts and other. I don't want to I don't want to talk out of place like I don't know exactly what it is, but I've never been there. So I know you do mixed martial arts and other other aspects of the gym as well.

Freddy Cocek

Yeah, yeah, man, I own SBY MMA and fitness. It's a mixed martial arts gym, basically like the, you know, like the UFC, the cage fight and stuff that a lot of we're seeing on TV. When you think of Maryland, you know, just to give some context, when you think of Maryland, you think of like Baltimore and Annapolis and the D.C. area and things like that. Well, there's a body of water that separates Maryland from the Eastern Shore, right? It's called the Chesapeake Bay. And I'm here on the Eastern Shore. So we're smack dab right in the middle. It's Salisbury. We're about Um, I'd say 30 minutes from the ocean, from the Atlantic ocean, about a hour and a hour, hour and a half from the Chesapeake bay. So we're more beach people than we are city people. Um, not to get into politics. I know it's hot because you had the debate last night, but, but I don't even watch it, bro. Honestly, I didn't even, I don't either, dude, but they give you context. Maryland is a blue state and the Eastern Shore is red. So that's, well, that makes sense. Okay. So that's, that's kind of our, uh, that's the best I got for you to try to, we're a little slower down here. It's a little bit more lax down here. You know what I mean? And like I said, we're, we're more beach people than city folks. So, um, yeah, I, I own SPY MMA and fitness. Um, that's, that's one of my gigs. That's my primary gig. And, um, I'm also the director of agent success over with the Maryland and Delaware group of long and false. Yes. Pretty hams team.

Branden Hudson

So, you know, I just I coach the real estate arm of your of your of your career adventures.

Yeah. And the funny thing is, I don't even know anything about real estate. Like I've learned what I did in proxy man. Well, it's funny, man. I learned. I learned what I've learned since I've been there for about four years, you know, just being a proxy of those guys and Brandon's team. But Brandon and I were from the same hometown. Oh, wow. We've known each other for a long time. And then basically, he was he was a sponsor of our gym and came in for on a podcast. And we were talking about mindset, what it takes to, like, train a fighter and your personal training clients. And he was like, man, this really sounds similar to real estate agents. And he, a couple of weeks later, offered me a job. I was like, look, I want you to coach him. I want you to come in and recruit and things like that. And four years later, we're talking about moving more into a leadership position over there as far as like, help him run the brokerage and do things. So we got some cool things going on and he's He's ultimately what got me into, you know, the group Apex that we're a part of. And yeah, you and it was a cool little story, man. It was cool.

However, that's yeah, that's badass. I didn't I didn't I knew y'all were both from the same state. I didn't realize that y'all were both like from the same hometown. I didn't know that.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we actually used to, you know, see each other and passing back. We were a bunch of knuckleheads in the clubs and stuff like that. It was always love, it was always respect, you know what I mean? He knew some people that I knew and, like I said, just ended up, you know, we were talking about this off camera, it's what you put out in the universe, the like attracts like and real attracts real and, you know, that guy's an amazing dude. I credit him a lot of my growth and things that he's helped me with just by being in his presence. the authenticity that he displays on a daily basis, man. He's as real as it comes.

Yeah, I've had the opportunity. I don't know Brandon real, real close, but I've had the opportunity to, you know, be around him and spend time with him a few times. And I'm hoping as time goes on and things progress, I hope to, you know, develop more of a relationship with him. But he's yeah, he's a he's a legit dude. Everything that I've seen and heard, I remember the first The first apex event that I came to where he spoke, I was like, you know, he was telling his story about, you know, this stuff from the past and the, the, the health issues and stuff that he went through and where he was like, evidently he was, he was like in bad shape and, you know, got through all that and just persevered. And, and, you know, his, his message was solid. And it was, I was like, man, this, yeah, this, this dude's on it. He's one of a kind, man.

He's a great human being. And he's, like I said, he's who you see, you know, when you see him on stage, you see him in person. He's the same way at home, man. It's cool, man. It's really rewarding for me to be aligned with somebody like that. And, you know, just because, man, I tried to find a chick in his armor for the first couple of years I was working for him. I'm like, this guy can't be who he says he is. You know what I mean? as you know, your hometown, you always have those, those salesmen, right? So now, man, it's been cool, man. He's, you know, I attribute him to a lot of my growth. And he's just, he's opened up a world of just, just thinking bigger, seeing bigger, seeing what's possible, you know, and, and I'd like to pride myself on being somebody like that, that, you know, is authentic as they come and has all the dreams and aspirations of somebody else. But man, when you know, when you get in a room with people doing the higher levels, you realize that, OK, we can we can up the ante a little bit.

Yeah, that's that's definitely you know, that's that's that's where one of the places where, you know, the the opportunity for growth is realized, you know, when when you when when a person takes it upon themselves to get. Get themselves in the rooms where, you know, the the people with the With the bigger vision and that are doing bigger things on, on different levels and higher levels when you get yourself exposed to that. And it's not for everybody, not, not everybody wants to grow themselves in that capacity or in that respect. And that's fine. I respect anybody if they, you know, if they're comfortable where they're at, but. you know, when, when, uh, when you operate in the frame of mind where you want to grow and you want to do bigger things, you don't, yeah. One of the, one of the best ways to grow is to get around people that have already done it or are actively doing it. And you expose yourself to that and stay with it and stay consistent and you learn from that. And, you know, you, uh, you, you can, you can shave, you can shave time off of your own process by getting, involved with, with other people and other processes that, that are, you know, that had been through some of the, the, the shit, you know, I had a conversation this morning with, uh, I was talking to Zach Sasser this morning and talked to him for like an hour about some stuff. And, and, um, we had a good conversation talking about, you know, some things similar to that. He was asking me about, you know, my stuff with, you know, going on with, with my career, my business now, and we're talking about steps forward and, and, uh, Yeah. You know, a lot, a lot of good stuff, man. When you, when you surround yourself with, with, with good people, you know, that's, that's when good things happen. You know, if you, if you hang around with successful people, you know, the, the, uh, the, the tendency for you to become more successful and to grow and to progress is there as opposed to, you know, if you, you hang around with somebody that's not trying to grow, then it's going to kind of like the whole crabs in a bucket deal, you know, they've, you know, pull you back now. So.

And we got plenty of those crabs over here at the Eastern Shore. So, yeah, we're known for our Maryland blue blue crabs. So, yeah, we understand that analogy more than more than most, man. And, you know, it's a shame, man, because ultimately what you find out is you find out like people that you really care about and love. And I guess you see yourself in or, you know, you see that has an excessive amount of potential. you know, eventually, you know, more often than not, I should say, you have to cut those people off or you have to separate from those people to a degree, because it's just like, you know, so many people remember the the the Brandon used to be the Freddie used to be or, you know, they remember they remember the come up, right. And then when you start hitting it, hitting the levels where, you know, things change, you know, you have to you have to you know, there's a different I mean, the old Spider-Man quote, you know, more responsibility, you know, or what is it? Great, damn, I'm drawing a blank, but great power comes great responsibility, right? You know, and it's, as you grow your organization or as you grow your teams or you grow your, you know, whatever it is that you're doing, you know, there's more power to that. There's more responsibility to that, you know? And unfortunately, most people think about and remember the guy or gal that you were or the come up and they can't really, They can't really process or fathom who they're supposed to become or, you know, who you both are becoming. And unfortunately, you know, you have to, you have to leave, leave them, leave them behind or separate yourself. And it sucks, man.

You know, it sucks when, you know, when, you know, with certain, certain people or certain individuals in, in, in anyone's life, you know, You, you can want that for them, you know, whoever, whoever's in your circle or whoever you, you know, you care about or whoever's on your radar, you know, you obviously, you know, most all of us, we, we want to take our good people with us. I mean, like we want to see our good people that we love and care about and that we know are solid. We don't, we want to see them fucking win too, but. If they don't want it for themselves, you know, yeah, it fucking it sucks if you, you know, it's almost kind of a guilty feeling sometimes. It's like, man, I don't want to, you know, like leave this person, leave them behind. But. You know, you can't you can't stifle your own progress for very long either, because if if if you come to the realization that somebody else, you know, if they're if they're comfortable, they're good where they're at or they don't want it the way everybody else wants it, then You know, you gotta, you gotta move on. You gotta roll.

Yeah. And I'm so guilty of that, man. I'm, I'm super guilty of, you know, just, you know, dragging people to the finish line. You know what I mean? Seeing more people that, you know, they didn't see themselves wanting it for more than wanting it more for them, you know, and you see it a lot in my business and the, in the mixed martial arts business, you know, we have, um, You know, I'm, I'm hovering around 400 members, um, that I have, you know, so, so we're, we're pretty, you know, we've got a nice size gym. We, we lease, uh, about 10,000 square feet from a 75,000 square foot box gym, you know, like your, like your, uh, your Bally's or your LA fitness model, you need to be in the big gym. So it's a, it's a local gym called pure family fitness and, um, you know, our local franchise and, you know, They are a multi-million dollar club, you know what I mean? And, you know, five years ago I was working and grinding in the back of a fitness club where, you know, you had 120 degree attic with, you know, no AC and, you know, we had anything. So when we come to Pure Fitness, you had to really, we had to look the part, we had to level up, you know, we had, we couldn't. You couldn't look like the trailer park sitting in a gated community. You know what I mean? Nothing wrong with a trailer park because I'm from one. But at the end of the day, it was a situation where we had to go from that homegrown, in the mud type of stance to now we're at a very nice facility. We have nicer equipment, more options, more coaches, more stuff like that. So you see that a lot in the mixed martial arts because you know one you have those people that came from those trenches with you you know what i mean that still want to live in the mindset of those trenches you know or two you see these guys and gals that come in and they all have these aspirations that they want to you know they want to be fighters and they want to get their jujitsu black belt they want to do this and that and the third and You know, like I know, you know, I mean, look how many people in the mastermind we've been into that have come in and they start off hot and they want to change your life. And they're listening to all the good, the inspirational, motivational stuff. And, you know, they're they're ready to go. And then, you know, when that shiny, that shiny shininess runs off and the new car smell wears out, you know, they're back to the old school way of thinking and going back to the old preparation they were in. And, you know, so. You know, it's careful finding that line of, you know, still wanting to push them and try to help them and be there for them, but also saying, look, man, you know, you got to do it for yourself. And I've been guilty of that more than anything else, man. I'm constantly trying to help those that probably don't deserve my time. Now, one lesson I will share that I have here recently is, is now I'm really, really hyper-focusing on pouring into those that have, you know, that deserve, you know, a lot of the stuff that I have to offer. I mean, Freddie, you know, I know for yourself, you spend thousands of dollars to work on yourself and better yourself and your business and things like that, right, a year. So, you know, and I'm in this, you know, we're in a similar boat. So if we're sitting here spending all this money to be in these rooms, if we're ever here reading books constantly, if we're ever here, you know, consuming podcasts and we're constantly being an evolution and evolving and evolving our beings and so on and so forth. Then, you know, sometimes, you know, I have to understand, like, well, the brand new guy necessarily, I'm a little bit above their pay grade. You know, that's somebody my coaches can can handle and deal with. That's some other other people can handle and deal with. The people I need to be pouring in are the members that have been here five, six, seven years that have, you know, shown face, constantly working, constantly growing, been loyal. You know where the coaches that are sitting here my leadership team building them up and things like that you know where are the people that you meet like us you know throughout the course of our journeys you know those are the people that i think that. You know, I should really be pouring into more often than anything. So that's a big lesson I'm actually currently going through at this moment where, OK, cool, Brandon, stop going into the immediate male. I got to fix everybody's problems and mindset and start going into like, OK, who really has earned my time? Yeah. You know, that might sound stuck up and that might. No, it's.

I understand what you're saying, but hey, that's part of your progression and your evolution. By your nature, I feel like I see this and I think it's pretty evident. I think by your nature, you're obviously a compassionate individual, especially if a big part of the reason that you got into what you're doing or a big part of the reason that you do what you do is because one of the end results that you want to provide to as many people as you can is that you want to help them in some capacity, whether it's physically, mentally, psychologically, maybe a combination of all those things to help benefit them. But I guess being compassionate by nature, it's certainly not a bad character trait for anybody, but as you're growing and evolving and you've got to recognize, you're recognizing the value of your time and your efforts. And then, you know, with that is coming your ability to recognize the effort that your long-term committed people, you've got the eye for recognizing who's been putting in the time, who's been putting in the work, and it's not just a monetary investment, it's your time and your involvement. is just as important. But yeah, there's always a cost factor to everything. But if people are spending their time and their money consistently over and over, over a longer period of time than somebody that's just started out or a little fresher into the game, then yeah, they they, on some level, they deserve priority, just like, you know, you and I, I mean, you know, you, the, the time and effort and money and all the resources that you spend on yourself for as long as you've been doing it, or as long as I've been doing it, it, it should, it should cultivate a level of, of priority and precedence for yourself or for myself on, you know, on some level. Um, because you know, if we've been working at our shit for, let's say we've been at it for five years, as opposed to the guy that's, you know, been doing it for five weeks, not to say that the guy that's been doing it for five weeks is, you know, any more wrong because everybody starts their journey or starts, you know, their process at whatever, whatever their right time is. Well, whatever God or the universe has decided, this is this person's time to, you know, start making their path upward. But yeah, if you got, you know, if you got your time in and, you know, you're, You, uh, it's, it's like standing in line, you know, trying to get to the fucking front of the line. If you've been in line longer than the guy that's in the back of the line, then you're, you're closer to the fucking payout of being at the front of the line. And so you get a little priority.

Yeah. Yeah. I, I a hundred percent. And the other thing that has been done on me, man, and. Um, I've kind of like, I don't know, maybe like, I don't know if I, I neglected or overlooked or whatever, but you know, we have kids programs here. Right. And I've been, I've been on record quoted that I, I, I firmly and authentically think. You know, that like, for instance, right. We'll, we'll meet up at these meetups at these masterminds or I'll be in the room with these high performing entrepreneurs. Right. And they'll be from all over the country. And I don't know about you, but for me, it seems like there's this level of kind of over it feeling that I get from a lot of people, right? And I don't think anybody can disagree, no matter where you're sitting. We're just kind of living in some weird times. We're living in some really strange times overall as a country, right? Yeah, I agree. Weird, right? You know, and regardless of where you're at. And again, this is not a political thing at all, because I give a shit about politics. You know what I mean? I'm from the Eastern Shore, Maryland, brother. I've been born since 1981. OK, I can assure you that nothing has changed in my backyard from Ronald Reagan all the way up to our current president. It's been the same thing, right? So I go to these meetups and I hear from different people, the frustration, but the people that I'm talking to, you know, and correct me if I'm wrong, I think you're a lot like this as well. Like I'll hear some views per se, just to keep the context simple. I'll hear some views over on the left, right? That, you know what? I agree with that. It makes sense for me, right? And then I'll hear some views over on the right. You say, you know what? I agree with that too. That makes sense to me, right? And we're kind of stuck in this unrepresented middle, right? Where like we allow people to live the way they want. We're okay with that. We also govern our households the way we think that we should. We agree with stuff that makes common fucking sense, right? We love everybody. We want everybody to win. I don't want to see anybody lose. You know what I mean? But I think far anything is not healthy for nothing, right? Far anything's far out. Yeah. And so I deal with a lot of these or I come in contact with a lot of these entrepreneurs, these business owners, these people that are on their on their come up and they're just kind of fed up. Right. Just we're just fed up. We're just fed up with the way things are going. And they don't want to be too loud and they don't want to be too vocal because, you know, all the backlash that could come from online and what that does for their family and all the other cancel culture bullshit that goes on. And I've just seen a lot of people that are just like, you know what? I'm taking my ball home. You know, I'm not playing no more taking my ball home and I'm going to focus on my organization. I'm going to focus on my family. I'm going to focus on my people. We're going to do the things that I think are strong, valued and strong, you know, mindsets and growth and things that are good for life. And we're just going to instill these in our kids. Right. And I, I, I personally, Freddie, I personally believe that in our lifetime, we're going to produce some of the greatest leaders that we've ever had, right? That I think we're going to have, I think we're going to produce leaders. I wish I could tell you it was going to be me and us, but I think we're a little too attached with the way things used to be. And we're too familiar with the way things are. And I think that we're not in the space to be able to run that charge. I think it's going to be the generations to come that are going to become leaders and become people that are going to change the way things are. And then you're going to write storybooks about like they have some of the historic leaders that we have. And we're going to be the ones that are going to foster those people, those kids, those leaders. We're going to be the ones that are going to be instilling the values. So to circle around on my point, I've been running an MMA gym and focusing on these fighters and these adult fighters, but the adult fighters are where most of the drama comes from, most of the back and forth where you're still trying to drag them across the finish line. We've got about 200 plus kids that I've got the opportunity to install these values and leave my mark on and give them some life lessons that You know, who knows? I mean, they could hear one or two things from me as a coach or me as a leader that could stick with them and change their life. Because I know there's things that I remember from back in middle school and grade school that, you know, I stuck with me and they have molded the person that they see in the day. So I've been really hyper focused on, you know, really, you know, investing a lot in the kids and invest a lot in the generations to come. And I'm not one of these. I'm not one of these coaches, dude. I mean, I'll probably get canceled, but I'll say to the kids because I'm one of these coaches. that I mean, I respect them as children, but I talk to them like they're adults because I believe that they're going to be adults one time. And I'm not your mom and I'm not your dad. And I'm a fucking teacher to tell you how to live. I'm here to help you be a productive member of society. I'm not in the real estate business. I'm not in the combat sports business. I'm in the helping people create leaders business, right? So if I got the opportunity to leave an impact on some of these kids in here, and they got the opportunity to leave some of the impact on other kids, other places, and that grows. And I mean, I'm just as hard as those kids as I'm hard on the parents that are sitting down watching the kids practice, right? Would you step into my room nobody's off limits. You know what I mean? Everybody can get it. Everybody's got to live up to a standard. We got to live up to these values. So that's been my lately perspective and realization as to where my foothold should be is really hyper-focusing on these children because we've poured into so many of these adults. And then you take all this time that you pour into these adults and they do the fucking opposite of what you tell them to do and then turn around and bad mouth you in the end anyway. You know what? You know, you go figure it out, buddy. I'm not going to give up on you, but you got to earn your seat at my table and earn your right to get my coaching. These children, these kids, they're the ones that we can actually change lives. I got a kid right now, brother. I got a kid right now. He's fucking 15 years old, right? He come home last, a year and a half ago, and his daddy was dead on the couch from drinking too much. Fuck, man. You see what I'm saying? This kid was a D and E student, no confidence, had trouble with his mama, all these other things. And the kid turned around and he's a fucking leader in our gym. After one year, he's a leader in our gym and he got B's and A's. And he didn't get B's and A's because he told me. He didn't get B's and A's because I told him he had to do it. He did it because he's proud of himself. He did it because he knew what leadership and what winning and what fucking focus on doing the hardship first and all the things we learned. He did that at 15 years old. And I got I got to feel this kid's going to change the world, man. So, you know, that's that's about where I'm at my journey.

I don't mean to get on my soapbox, but, you know, I know I really like I really I love to hear that because. you know, part of my, and I, and I haven't, I haven't, you know, talked about this or disclosed this to a whole lot of people, but like over the last couple of years, uh, it, it has become for, for whatever reason, I, I, I feel like I don't, I don't exactly understand the reason why it has become a priority to me, but. Somebody is saying, this is going to be a higher priority in your life. And I feel like I can't argue that. I don't argue that. I don't refute it. I'm like, OK, this is something that I need to start investing more of my focus and time and priority into. And it's along that same line. I have a level of passion and an interest in wanting to work more with with kids. You know, I mean, I got I got kids of my own. You got kids. I got, you know, my two boys, like, you know, my sons are, you know, Freddie's about to be 23 and my and my younger one, Helen's about to be 15. And, you know, talking about the kid you're talking about at, you know, 14, 15 years old, they're That that's a very impressionable age and that's a you know that's a tough thing for for you know what you're talking about with that with that boy. I mean, that's a that's a that's a fucked up deal to, you know, to experience and be exposed to. But you know, if that says that's his reality, that's his reality. But to. For him to be in a position to be, you know, connected to somebody like you where. You've got you've got the mindset in the frame of mind where. you know, you're, you acknowledge his, his situation and his circumstances, and you want to push him and drive him to do better and to be better. And you're, you know, you're a catalyst of sorts for, for his change and his improvement. But I also give any individual a huge level of credit, you know, for, for their, their personal improvement or success. I give it to them because, you know, that, but, you know, if you want to go back to the, the, that old adage about, you know, leading the horse to water, but you can't make it drink. I mean, you can, like, you're talking about, you know, you're talking about adults that you work with, you know, people in their, in their thirties or in our age bracket in their forties. And it's like, yeah, you work with them, you show them all the shit. And then at the end of the day, they're either going to go do it, try to do it their own way, or they're going to talk shit about what you tried to teach them and show them. And it's like, well, okay. You know, I've, I've, I've done my best. I've given it my all. I'm not giving up on you, but I can only do so much. But with the younger generation, the younger kids, I think they are more impressionable. And I think it makes a much more significant impact when we can work with a younger group. Because like you say, the group of leaders or the next regime of solid leaders, it might not come from our bracket. It may be the next generation below us or two generations below that or whatever. But You know, you can you can make a lot of impact on on on someone now at that age. And that shit sticks with them. And chicken, you know, it can be something that they could potentially, like, completely change and transform their life.

And my my eyes, you know, sorry to cut you off. No, no, no. You're good. My high school football coach is the reason why I'm such a dog. Right. He he I hated that motherfucker. I thought he was the most meanest son of a bitch back in the day. And we ended up becoming friends and he ended up looking after me a lot as I got older. And then those lessons that I learned on that JV varsity football team back in high school from him stuck with me my entire life. You know what I mean? And you know, here's the thing is, let's weigh the lesser of the two, right? And I mean, obviously we're going to still have responsibilities to build our team, to build our organizations, to build the people around us, right? Absolutely. I look at it like this. Pour into an adult, spend all this time with an adult, and they could be the unicorn that could take it and run, or they could be the one that's going to turn around and, you know, do what most of them are going to do anyway. And that's not anything against people. I'm not better than anybody. It's just a numbers game, right? You're just going to have numbers. Pour into a kid, give them the tools and stuff that could potentially stick with them. chances are they're going to leave too because they're going to become teenagers, become young men and women, become adults. They're going to have lives of their own, but what sticks with them and what goes with them and the fact that they will always know that they're loved and they're cared for and there's a place here and that what hard work did for them and what discipline did for them and you know what I mean? And then you add the other stuff like, you know, helping them learn how to market themselves and business strategies and all this thing. I mean, dude, like, You know, it's one of those things like, which is the lesser, which is one weighs out more, you know, of course it's going to be kids every time, you know, so it's been a great, it's been a great realization for me lately, man, because, you know, I'm, I'm hardheaded, you know, I'm old school. I got a ball to, to learn and, you know, had a, had a guy, you know, a student just leave the gym. That was, you know, I cared about the kid and, you know, he did it in a way that wasn't necessarily that lacked integrity, you know what I mean? But at the end of the day, It was just a lesson, you know, it was just that nudge that I needed to say, you know what, who's more important here, you know, these prima donnas or, you know, these children that, you know, may not have what they need to have. And, you know, you don't always have to have a poor me story. You know, the kid that, you know, found his dad like that, man, you know, I. I got massive empathy for him and compassion for him. But I'm also like, dude, you ain't the only motherfucker in America who's going through the same thing. You know what I mean? So you can let this define you or you can let this fucking break you. But you're going to have to do something with it. You can't sit here and stay in the middle. You know, and that's how I treat them, man. I treat the kids that way. I treat them, you know, as real as I can. And, you know, they never know what you're doing. I close doors for them and things. But at the end of the day, when it comes to that one on one dialogue, you know, that's what they get from me. But they don't necessarily need to have that kind of story. You know what I mean? There's a lot of loved kids. There's a lot of kids that come from middle to upper class that still need those values, still needs that leadership, still needs that perspective. And man, here on the Eastern Shore, we're three quarters surrounded by water, brother. We don't have a metropolitan running through here. We're two hours away from Philly, D.C. and Baltimore. So we don't have this big, great, big metropolitan influence of millions of people from all kinds of you know, money and demographics and we're like, no, we're we're we're we're the Eastern Shore. We're our governor. Years ago, when I was a little boy, called us the outhouse of Maryland. No bullshit.

David Shafer called the dirty door.

Yes. On fucking record, dude.

OK, so why couldn't he just say like rural America instead of the fucking outhouse?

I don't know, man. I don't know. You know, whatever. But it is. It goes, it's all a record, but at the end of the day, this was a long time ago, but at the end of the day, you know, so, so it's important for me, you know, to, to really influence as many people as I can over here and, and, and just, you know, give back what I learned because not everybody, I've got people that have never left the shore, brother. I've got people that never left the shore. Never been on a plane, never, you know, and that's just that mindset, you know, I just can't fathom, but that's just the way it works. So, you know, we got, I got to bring back what I learned and I got to teach and grow and multiply. And again, you know, what better, what better way to build your army throughout the kids, because, you know, obviously with all the other. horrific things that they're doing and targeting our kids. You've got these fucking predators that every other time you turn on the news, you see a different video of shit. You've got all kinds of different agendas shoved down these kids' throats. And then you've got social media where it's... And I don't think it's such a bad thing as much as it's just a way of life now, but it's also hindering you know, these kids from playing and running to exhaustion and moving and all these things. They did studies on rats and, you know, other mammals. And they got to play puppies. They got to play. They got to they got to run to the man. It can't be isolated. It can't be set in a box.

Human interaction, I think, is it's a necessary thing for people. I mean, I think that, you know, that, you know, for developing, you know, socially and, and otherwise, I mean, I, I think it's like a, it, it's an essential thing. And it was pretty much always the thing up until, you know, what, say what, 20 years ago, you know, and, you know, when, when, uh, you know, all of a sudden we had the internet and this ease of access to information and it slowed people down to instead of having to go out and search for your answers and work harder at some of that stuff. I don't know, man. It's different. Yeah, exactly. Big time.

It's definitely going to change. Our grandparents said the same thing about us. You know, it's just it's a sign of the time. So that's all good. But, you know, I'm committed to to add and add my value and added my leadership to that. You know, we want to help all these adults and I think we get caught up in, in wanting to help our, meet our peers so much because that's, you know, who we're in competition with or who we want to be accepted by or whatever have you. And, you know, it just, sometimes we forget who's the most important and I'm guilty of it, just like anybody else. You know, I get caught up in this shit. I'll get caught up in some gym drama or everybody does, man. Everybody does, you know, overall, man, you know, I, I've got a lot to offer. And I think that, um, you know, I think that. speaking to the kids like they're adults and viewing them as adults, you know, that gives me an opportunity to teach them business. That gives me an opportunity to teach them marketing and teach them stuff, you know, look at things differently. And then also on the flip side, I'm learning from these motherfuckers, man. These little kids are teaching me more than I learned from the same sob stories and stuff like that. So I don't want to come off as cynical and all like, forget everybody else. And I'm not trying to come off of Mr. Santa Claus trying to save the kids. It's just in my personal development journey and in my leadership journey, my business journey, I'm finding that You know, sometimes you start with the direction thinking that it should be one way and then you find out as you grow, you know, it's a whole different angle that you should be really focusing on and catering to your talents and catering to the things that you're good at, man. There was a time I didn't even want to teach kids. I was like, man, fuck that, I want to teach dogs. I don't want to see adult kids because they're so much cooler and the shit that they say. So it's it's it's it's interesting as you grow and, you know, in business and life and in all things, the things that reveal themselves and show themselves to you.

Oh, absolutely. I mean, any anybody I think anyone and everyone should try to, you know, exist and function with a you know, kind of an open mind, as much of an open mind as you can have and a willingness to not let yourself, you know, get, you know, get so focused or, you know, kind of fall into that rut or get, get, get stuck in one particular trench or rut. And, and, you know, your way of thinking that, well, you know, yeah, this is, this is the direction I need to go, you know, don't, don't be afraid of, or don't be unwilling to, you know, learn from potentially everything that you experience or come in contact with. I mean, just, you know, to, to the point of what you said just a little while ago, you're talking about, you know, you're, we're, we're both, we're both adults. I mean, we're, we're grown men in our forties. So obviously we're, you're, you're older than, you know, the, the, the kids that you're teaching. So typically, you know, age and experience, you know, dictates, uh, um, you know, a level of authority or, or at least, you know, superiority in the, in the sense that you're older and I'm older, but it doesn't mean that we know everything. Yes. We have a lot of knowledge and wisdom and experience that we can pass on to people younger than us, even to people older than us. And by the same token, you know, you said, man, I'm, I'm learning a lot of shit from these kids too. So if you know, you're, you're operating in the, in the frame of mind where, You're not like, well, I'm, you know, I'm an adult here and I'm the teacher and I'm teaching y'all. And if you're, you know, you're obviously you're saying that you're learning stuff from these kids and it's a, it's a reciprocal deal. And that's about us. That's, that's good. And we, every, everyone, everyone has the ability to, to be learning something at any age. I don't give a shit if you're eight or 80. Oh, it's, you know, it's, it's, uh, the opportunity is always there as long as someone's willing to do so.

Yeah, I mean, I always said that as a teenager, man, I was like, you know, I can learn something from the crackhead on the side of the corner, man. You know, I can learn something from everybody. Everybody has a tidbit of information that, you know, can apply to your life. And I heard I mean, Ryan Steumann says it the best for me. It's like, you know, you can hear the same thing said, but there's a combination of words that get unlocked and said the right way that hits you on the right day that really, you know, change your life. I'm one of them guys that if I sit in the pulpit of the church or if I sit somewhere at an event and somebody says that right combination of words, dude, I'm on it. It's changed my life. I'm ready to go. My wife is different. My wife, it's going to take her some time to take it home. ponder on it, process it, let it see where it fits in and find it out later. You know, she's very type A. I'm the other type. Right. So for me, you know, I could take, you know, a tidbit and I could watch a freaking video on on on Facebook, you know, somebody put together with a great background music and, you know, a clip from this and that. And my life has changed. You know, I take that run with it. So, yeah, man, I've always said that. I think you can learn from everybody, man. Absolutely. I think when you stop avidly listening, excuse me. I think when you stop avidly, avidly listening, and I think when you think that you have it all and know it all, you're really fucking up in the game. I think that's when, when you stop seeing the angles, I think it's really a bad time. You know what I mean? Because now you've either gotten too brash or too big for your britches to think that you're, you know, better than now. And, you know, we're students of the game. And I don't know about you, buddy, but man, it seems like the older I get, The less I realize I know.

It's 20 something years ago. I thought I knew a lot of shit and then you know fast forward to now. It's like wow, I really don't know.

Yeah, yeah, I don't know shit about book. Yeah, I'm learning man. I'm learning as I go man. I'm I'm growing and and you know I'm just I'm I'm I'm you know I associated Marshall. I'm white belt for life. You know I've got the white mentality where I'm always learning. I'm always constantly growing and pushing. pushing the envelope. And like I said, the more I realize I don't know, the more I value interact. You know, I like this. I love this. You know, we were talking about off camera, man, that we love the person to person organic conversations. And that's where we thrive. I think that was that that might be even a generational thing. And that's where we thrive. You know, the connection, the communication, the body language, you know, it just it it really it really it really feeds my soul and feeds my my being to be able to to to have this and You know, I'm learning. I'm just constantly learning, man. So it's awesome, brother. I've seen, you know, and to give you some flowers, man, I've seen a lot of growth and change in you from the time I met you, you know, a couple of years ago to now, man, just, you know, you just seem like you. You know, you just seem like that you've had your ups and downs and everything in between, like we all have. But you're just like, I don't know, it's hard to explain. I don't want to sound like corny, but it's like you've got this like this zen with you, man, this this this inner peace with you right now that, you know, and I may be completely off the mark, but the way that you you handle yourself and conduct yourself, it seems like it's there. It seems like you're really you're really good with yourself. And we've even had conversations about, you know, technology and and social media, and you're just like, man, it saved me, but I'm going to get it. I'm going to figure it out, and I got it, and I'm going to eat. And it's cool, man. It's cool to watch the people that you're around grow. So hats off to you.

No, I completely agree. I think it's awesome to watch people you know or people that you have known for a long time. Obviously, it's cool to watch familiar people grow and progress, but I think it's equally, if not greater, you know, on a greater level, more awesome to, you know, get introduced to someone that you haven't known for fucking, you know, 10 years, 20 years, your whole life or whatever. And to not know, not, not know their, all of their backstory or, you know, what their journey has consisted of up, up to the time when you meet them, but to to only know somebody for a shorter period of time and to be able to, you know, experience, see and experience like their, their progress and their progression. And in that, in that time window, as opposed to, I've known this person for, you know, 30 years, well, I've known this guy for two years, but in that two year period, I I've noticed, you know, a, a transition and a, you know, forward progress. So that's, that's cool. And I appreciate that. Thank you. I, I, uh, I know that I've made, you know, I've made progress on on, you know, some different, different personal aspects. And I'm I'm enjoying it and I'm humbled by it and I'm appreciative of it. And I feel like I still got a long way to go, but I'm like, I'm stoked about it. Like I'm digging all of it. And I think that's awesome.

I don't give a shit about your fucking money or your fucking online shit. I'm a, you know, for me, and I'm not better than anybody, no worse, but I, you know, I look at the human man and you know, you can, the money's a by-product man, that shit. 100%. But you can tell about, you can tell a lot about a person. and the way that they can't carry themselves, how they talk to others, their smile. You know what I mean? Just the way that they laugh. You know what I mean? A lot, a lot of little things. And I, you know, maybe I'm wrong. You know, I've been in a lot. I think you're on track.

Absolutely.

I've been in a lot of different backgrounds and settings, environments in my life.

But that makes you, that makes you go around it.

Yeah, it's not failed me this, this, this, not, it's not failed me yet. Right. So I've seen a lot of different things and people and, and, you know, those characteristics, you know, they, they, they tend to follow those that are really, really making those improvements and doing things that people don't see. So. Yeah, I love it, man. I agree with you so much. It's like, it's cool to see somebody you didn't know a very long time and you just met through whatever reason and then watch them, you know, just find that level of happiness and peace in their body. And that doesn't mean we're blissful and without problems. It just means like, you know, the, the, the gratitude.

How you handle your situations or how you choose to respond to things. I think is a big part of it too.

And the gratitude, being grateful, you know, it's like, man, dude, you know, I, I was talking about the other day, dude, I mean, I used to shovel asphalt for a living, right. That was my job. I, I shoveled asphalt and that's a hard job. You know what I mean? That's the hottest of heats and you know, you're, you're lifting up, you know, concrete basically. And, and, you know, here I am now, you know, I get the fucking, play fight with my friends all day and play fight people to jump up and down and lose weight.

So it's like, you know, what a life, right? I beat motherfuckers up on a recreational level on the daily.

Well, for the record, right? Everybody like Brandon Brittingham will always when I speak for him, he's having him speak at a couple of his events. And every time I speak, He introduces me as the two-time belt champion. And he's like, well, if it didn't work out with real estate, then, you know, I will, I'll just have him, you know, beat somebody's ass who owes us money, you know, ha ha, he he. And every time I'm like, dude, listen, I am not a really good fighter. I'm just really good at getting my ass whooped, OK? Because every time we do one of these speeches, I got one of you big dudes waiting in the parking lot ready to challenge me. Let me just buy you a beer. I don't want no trouble, man. I'm cool. I'm hanging out. So yeah, it's it's funny. I'm really going to get my ass. Well, let's just put it like that. But but you're in the game every day, so every day every day, man, I'm going to do it so I can't do it no more. And you know these guys, you know, I I get better and you know more skilled, but man, they just can't get younger and tougher and stronger. So you know, I don't know how much more longer I have, but man, I'm having a blast doing it and I love training. You know, I love I love jujitsu. I love kickboxing. I love MMA. I just you know it's it's. You know, it's hard for a 43 year old guy to hang with these guys. But at the same time, it's even harder to hang it up and walk away from it because it's so, it's so ingrained in my identity at this point, you know, and it just, it feeds me so much, man. I grew up with a lot of, a lot of anger, man. I don't know where it come from. I had both my parents, um, you know, we grew up, you know, lower to middle class and, you know, we, we had to struggle and do what we needed to do. But at the same time, man, I just, I don't know what, I don't know if it was the rap music or if it was the environment, but I was just fucking mad dog. I was growing up. And, and, and, you know, I was the oldest of all the, all the grandkids. So I had no older brothers, no older cousins to, to, to stick up for me. So, you know, and, and all my friends were black and I don't know about, you know, about brothers, but when, you know, fight brothers, you got to bob and weave because they can box. Right. So, you know, picked on and beat up and stuff like that. And, uh, I just had to stick up for myself and I just grew up angry, man. And, and man, just mixed martial arts really. And I started late brother. I did, I started doing mixed martial arts. to lose weight at 29 years old. So it's not like I start, I had this huge background. I was just like, you know, I was involved in a lot of stuff and I was, you know, street fighter and things like that. And I assure you my, my record on the streets way better than my record in the cage. But, but man, it was just one of them things, man, where when I, when I was introduced to mixed martial arts, it just changed everything, man. It changed, you know, the humility factor, the, the just being able to get it out and, and, and reroute this energy. Um, you know, all of it, man, it just, and I grew up playing football, basketball, baseball, you know, for, for popcorn or little league school and things like that. And I, you know, um, I never went to college, but, you know, I had a high school and middle school career in those things. And, you know, I was, I was a boy, you know, we'd race and road bikes and box in the neighborhoods and do all the stuff that boys do. Um, But man, after I graduated high school, you know, and some of the things I was involved in, it just, you know, just got really, really just complacent with what I thought was the way to go. And man, you know, like I said, it just, I had so much anger as a Jew, as a adolescent, as a young adult. And I got into mixed martial arts, man, and started seeing what hard work, you know, what yields from hard work. And it just, it just manifested in all of this now, man. And it's crazy, dude. I can't even, you know, you talk about humble, Are you talking about gratitude and humility, man? I just would have never in a million years thought that I would be putting stuff, content out on social media, speaking on stages, being a coach, being a champion. Yeah, man, just responsible for so many people. Like it's, it's incredible, dude. And, and, you know, and, and things, you know, the economy's, the economy's rough, you know, we're in a down response, you know, time, you know, times are tough for everybody. Everybody's kind of feeling the pinch and struggling and, You know, we've got, you know, whatever you want to call it with our politics going on and we got whatever you want to call it with the way things are and people's beliefs and all this other bullshit, man. So it's not like I'm immune to to my surroundings. But man, I tell you what, I wouldn't trade any of it in the world for for what I do every single day. And that's bleeding, sweating, banged up, neck hurts, back hurts, everything hurts. But man, it just it's so rewarding, brother.

Yeah, I think the level of gratitude and humility and appreciation that people are able to, you know, able to feel for themselves and able to, you know, that they're able to derive from like investing in doing that for themselves. You know, like, you know, I mean, I, I go to the gym several times a week. I finally, you know, I, I finally gotten myself in the mode where I'm, I'm in the gym five or six days a week. Now I have not been in the last couple of days and I feel guilty as fuck about it. And like, seriously, like it's been wearing them. I pulled a muscle in my back over here, one of my lat muscles. So I've been, I was like, man, I, I need to, I need to slow off a little bit, but I don't like the feeling that I'm like shortchanging myself and that I like, I've, I've felt, I haven't been happy about it. And I'm like, fuck, like I've been chomping at the bit. Like when we get done, I'm literally, I'm fucking, I'm going, I'm going to go and fucking hammer it out. And. It, it took a, it took a while for me, you know, I'm physically, even before I started going to the gym, you know, a lot more consistently and really like making that a huge priority for the longest time. I told myself, yeah, this I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, well, fuck, I'm gonna, you know, I fucking said that for a long time. And I finally just. One day I said, okay, this is it. Today's the day. And I started and I've been, I've been consistent five to six days a week going to the gym. You know, I'm not, I'm not doing mixed martial arts. This is just, you know, lifting weights, cardio, working out stuff, but the feeling, the appreciation that I have for myself and in myself for committing to doing that, it's huge to me. And I think for so many people, you know, investing in yourself, you know, at least in the physical sense or, you know, and, you know, investing in yourself and taking care of yourself in the physical sense that translates to, you know, a better feeling mentally and psychologically. And, you know, there's a whole host of benefits that come from just taking care of yourself in general. And I think it's a I think it's a big fucking thing, man. Absolutely. Everybody. I wish everybody on this fucking planet, if everybody on this fucking planet could get themselves in the frame of mind and say, hey, you know what? I deserve better for myself and so I'm going to do a little more and a little better for myself. I think it would completely change so much shit. It's never going to happen because it's never going to be a perfect world, but I definitely encourage people, uh, you know, to do so. And obviously you do as well. I mean, you, that, that's your, that's your business. I mean, you're in the business of improving people, you know, physically, emotionally, psychologically, you know, with, with what you do and how you do it. And that's, that's fucking amazing. It's badass.

Yeah, thank you, brother. And I agree with you, man. Like it doesn't like I have to force myself to go lift weights, you know, where some guys that's their thing. You know, I'm one of my coaches, man. He's he's an animal when it comes to lift weights. He's he's about one hundred fifty five, fifty six, maybe one hundred sixty pounds at this point can deadlift five hundred five pounds and box jump fucking almost his height. I mean, he's just freaks of nature, right? Yeah. you know, but for me, I have, that's, that's not what I like to do. I don't like to lift weights and I've been, you know, committed to it for the past two and a half years because of the pain aspect of when you train in one, you know, you train in mixed martial arts, for instance, and you're doing a lot of explosive activities, you over, you overdevelop certain muscles and some other muscles muscles don't get developed. So then the pains, your body's offset and unbalanced, you start feeling pain and so on and so forth. So, I combated that with a good strength and conditioning regiment and that's not my favorite thing. As a matter of fact, Fun fact, and I get made fun of them for all, I got these little, I got this really weird, awkward build, right? I got this big body in this cage and these little teeny fucking arms, right? And everybody makes fun of me. I'll choke your ass out and punch you in the face pretty good, but that still doesn't look very good on me, Freddie. But the worst exercise out of all of them for me is curls. I hate them to death, dude. And all the guys love to do curls. Everybody, you know, everybody hates legs and I love legs. So for me, um, it's the same thing, but I agree with you so much. It's like, dude, whatever you do, man, none of this stuff for me, the owning the gym, being a champion, being in the personal development space, working with Brandon, getting on stages, having this, this podcast, having my, all these, all of it, right. All of the things, right. None of that shit would have happened. Had I not started working out. Had I not started going to the gym and saying, you know what, I don't want to be overweight anymore. I want to work on my body. And, and, and it just, it just, it snowballed, man, it manifested in, in the things that I never even thought that were going to be possible. So I agree with you so much, man, everybody's meant to move no matter what it is. You don't have to be, I mean, I always am going to recommend, um, you know, combat sports just because of the fact that. what it's done for me in my life, but you know, it doesn't have to be combat sports. I strongly, strongly encourage everyone to put their kids in it. You know what I mean? A lot of people want to put their kids in combat sports for self-defense and discipline, right? I think the more valuable lesson of combat sports is losing in the humility. I think that when you teach a kid how to- That's huge, that really is. You teach a kid how to lose, when you teach a kid how to work really, really hard for a tournament or for something and they lose, that is the most valuable lesson out of combat sports that you could ever gain. Trying to learn how to defend yourself or trying to get self-discipline, all those things are great, but the fact of the matter is when a kid loses a hand-to-hand competition, whether it be wrestling, boxing, karate, jujitsu, whatever, that that level of disappointment and that level of letdown is a lesson for them that carries them through life. And that's why most people that do martial arts and combat sports tend to be different kind of animals in business, different kind of human beings towards one another. You know, obviously you always have those bad apples or there's few that, you know, abuse it, but that's everywhere now, man, that level of, That lesson that you learn in the humility and the loss, man, that is what really I think is the most impactful and beneficial thing kids can get from combat sports.

I agree with that. Yeah. I mean, you know, one of the, one of the biggest, one of the biggest things in life for anyone is, you know, having the ability to, or knowing how to deal with, you know, adversities and struggles because that, that shit's always going to come. And I think, you know, to, to the point of what you're saying, I didn't until you, until you said it that way, and until you, you know, brought up that point, I didn't really think about it, but that, that, that is huge. That makes a lot of sense because, you know, Life isn't always about winning. Hey, if we were all winning all the fucking time, then, you know, there wouldn't be, there wouldn't be a gap between, you know, winning and losing, but, you know, having to deal with, with the loss or, or, uh, you know, overcoming, uh, adversity or, or, you know, the, the, the fucking downside of things, experiencing that and, learning how to, how to, you know, how to take it in, how to process it, how to learn from it and get better from it. Yeah. That's a, uh, I think you're absolutely right. That's like one of the biggest fucking lessons you can take out all that stuff. That's 100%. Thank you. Okay. That's good. I've enjoyed this man. Likewise, likewise. Good conversations. I've really enjoyed it. And anytime we've had the opportunity prior to now, anytime we've talked, I've always enjoyed it. And like, uh, you know, like I told you earlier, man, I, you know, so much, I've always had a lot of respect and admiration for the things that you have, you know, taken it upon yourself to, to put out there and share with people, uh, do like pretty much air. I can't think of anything that, that. that you ever shared, you know, on Facebook, on social media, I can't think of anything that you've ever shared. And I read it and I wasn't just like almost fucking like blown away, like every fucking time. Seriously, it's like this this dude is he's he's speaking with his mind, you know, speaking to the keyboard with his mind. But it's all like it's coming from here, like like it's all it's all like heart and soul shit. And I've always been impressed by that. And I respect it very much. And I I appreciate you for sharing the things that you have shared and the things that you do share. And I certainly hope that some of your stuff has resonated with other people as much as it has with me. And I'm like, Mike, sometimes I'm like this motherfucker, he's, he's been busy. He is. He just fucking, he just shared a lot of information. He just typed out a lot of shit. And I'm like, but this is, it's fucking, it's badass. I mean, when you're, when you're speaking from your heart and your soul, there, there, there really is no limit. You, you, you share what you're feeling until you're done sharing. And that's it. And I think that's, that's. That's a, that's a huge tribute to, to your character, I feel so mad respect to you for that. Absolutely.

I really, really received that. Well, and thank you, man. I really appreciate that. I just fucking crazy life, man. It's, it just, it's crazy. I, my coach is like, dude, if I ever told somebody about you and. who you are when they don't even believe you're a real person because of all the shit that happens. And I'm like, you know, I'm not special, man. But, you know, I it tends to get crazy. But I really I really appreciate that. And I wish I wish a lot of people felt like that, because I got a fucking line of haters out there that, you know, feel differently. So but, you know, that's. It's a part of it.

So, you know, you know where the you know where the haters rank. Yeah.

Oh, I do. They never ever hate down. They always hate us. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Also, brother. Well, feelings mutual, man. You know, and I'm really looking forward to I know this is a new thing for you. And I'm glad I'm on the first first go around of your podcasting. And I'm really I appreciate.

Yeah, I know we, you know, we've been trying for the last couple of times, man, I had you lined up and then shit changed. And man, I've been, I was kind of, you know, stumbling out of the gate to get this deal started. And I've still, I've been a little slower coming on with it than what I would like, but dude, I'm really. the opportunity to, you know, have exchanges like this with people like yourself and whoever else I'm going to have the opportunity to share shit with and be shared with. I'm like, I'm really stoked about it. I'm really enjoying it. And I look forward to to a lot more of it.

Yeah, I look forward to be on that being on that a year from now when you got this thing dialed in and you know, it's it's it's it's something, you know, grown and manifested into something else, man, because it always happens.

And I put I put the word out there that that I'm doing this and that it's a thing. And so I can't I can't back out of it now. I don't want to back out, but I sure as hell can't back out because I can't be that guy that all Friday said he was going to do this and that motherfucker didn't do nothing. So it's like now.

Well, that and also, man, you got to remember, dude, like, you know, we tend to forget this, but you have an audience, you know, I've heard so many people say, you know, oh, well, you know, I only have, you know, 10 people that follow me or 10 people that, you know, engage with me or whatever. And I don't know where I heard this from, but it's not mine. But they said, Well, what if there was 10 people from your hometown that got into a serious bus accident and unfortunately died? Would that make a big deal? It changes the perspective. So I firmly think with what you're doing and who you are as a human and the people that you're having on here, man, it's going to help somebody's life that's following you and that connects with you and looks up to you, man. So regardless if it's you know, 1, 2, 10, 100, 1,000, man. If we just help one man, you never know what that's going to yield and turn into, man. So keep doing it, man. You're a natural at it. I certainly appreciate you being on here, brother.

Yes, sir. I think any of us that are trying to make an impact or we feel like we're trying to make an impact somewhere, we've already done it and we either don't realize it or we're just not acknowledging it. But you know that you've made impact in places with your people and with your situations. And I know that I have with people in situations as well. And that's a good feeling. And it's like, you know, you can't, once the fucking train's rolling, you can't stop. That's it, brother.

Like a locomotive, man. It might take a little bit to get moving, but once that fucking thing is going, brother, it's going fast. Fuck, yeah.

No, man. Much love. I appreciate your time. And I wish you well. I hope everything on the on the Eastern Shore say it stays solid and have a good weekend. And I hope to catch up with you as soon as I can.

Appreciate you, brother. Thank you so much for being on here, man.

Absolutely. Appreciate your time. Have a good one, brother. Have a great weekend. You too, man. Yes, sir.

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